Premieres Wednesday, October 28, 2026
Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman sits down with the scientists, philosophers and technologists working at the frontier — the people whose work is actively deciding what we could become as a species.
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New conversations every other Wednesday.
Episode 1 · Available October 28
with Cameron Berg
What if the systems we are building are not simply tools, but the beginnings of something more? Cognitive scientist Cameron Berg explains why nobody yet knows whether today's models are sophisticated calculators or emerging minds, why behavior alone may never settle it, and what happened during the strange conversation with an AI called Maya that became the catalyst for his documentary.
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Episode 2 · Available October 28
with Michael Levin
Michael Levin joins Scott Barry Kaufman to explore intelligence beyond the human brain, the hidden minds of cells and biological systems, the origins of genius and inspiration, and the possibility that intelligence and creativity may not be something we simply “make.”
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Episode 3 · Available October 28
with L.A. Paul
L.A. Paul joins Scott Barry Kaufman to explore transformative experiences, the nature of personal change, and why some of life’s most important decisions cannot be fully understood until we experience them.
Watch & listenFor eleven years and 478 episodes, Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman hosted The Psychology Podcast, one of the most listened-to psychology shows in the world, with more than 30 million downloads. Human Potential Lab is what that show has become.
The questions have moved. What is a mind? What makes something conscious? What happens to being human when the things we build start to look like minds themselves? Too much of the work that will answer those questions is happening out of public view. This show brings the frontier into the open, and sorts out what is real from what is hype.
Scott Barry Kaufman is a cognitive scientist and the founder of the Center for Human Potential. He holds a Ph.D. from Yale and an M.Phil. from Cambridge, has taught at Columbia, NYU and the University of Pennsylvania, and is the author or editor of twelve books, including Transcend, Ungifted, Wired to Create and Rise Above.
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